grastog1313 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Markbotv3 - I'm real, and Al Gore is right. And by the way, more floods are coming if you don't get your act together and stop burning all that oil, coal, and gas. Don't say I didn't warn you. God

markbotv3 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

lol they had to cancel the global warming convention held in finnland last year because of cold weather...and it wasnt even record breaking cold weather. wtf?

markbotv3 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

its simple people...read your bibles,god clearly states that "I will never again destroy the world by flood" after the whole noahs ark affair. so either god is right,or al gore is right. its one or the other. if seattle and san francisco are under 35 feet of water within the next 11 years as al gore predicts then god is not real. if however they are NOT under 35 ft of water in 11 years then global warming is a hoax,god is real, and al gore will spend eternity in hell fire. lets see who wins

grastog1313 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Many viewers may be less interested in refereeing YouTube arguments than understanding evidence underlying CO2-driven anthropogenic warming. Extensive data are found in the literature (GRL, PNAS, J. Climate, etc.), but web sources can be Googled for a start - "Global Warming" for a wikipedia overview plus references, "Greenhouse Effect" for basic physics, "Climate Book" for mathematically rigorous analysis, and "Lean Rind 2008" for a recent paper with model-independent CO2 confirmatory data.

notindoctrinated (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

my conclusion is proof of climate changing hotter or colder does not prove CO2 plays any role. the only result of reducing CO2 is toxic diesel smoke and mercury filled light bulbs being promoted as 'green'.

grastog1313 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It's hard to see the point of arguing when viewers can visit all the climate sites themselves - HadCRUT3, NCDC, GISS, UAH, RSS. I judge them to show recent warming, as well as a long term CO2-driven warming trend punctuated by typical short term ups and downs, all consistent with the basic CO2 forcing as the long term factor. However, anyone visiting these sites should draw his or her own conclusions.

icecreamdose (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"Anyone wishing to know whether the Earth is warming or cooling should visit climate trend sites " in telling people to do this you continually show that you don't know how to read graphs. In these graphs you are so anxious to believe show warming you are only paying attention to upward spikes. You do want to see the more numerous downward spikes. On average these graph show a downward trend. The earth is cooling. It is not warming.

icecreamdose (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

you just love your mindless spam repetition dont you grastog. you love to hear yourself speak. Shouldnt someone who is so full of ego like you actually have something of substance to say? Al Gore has attracted people just like you to be on his team. You two fit very well together. Congratulations!!!

grastog1313 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Al Gore aside, I believe viewers may be less interested in refereeing YouTube arguments than understanding evidence underlying CO2-driven anthropogenic warming. Extensive data are found in the literature (GRL, PNAS, J. Climate, etc.), but web sources can be Googled for a start - "Global Warming" for a wikipedia overview, "Greenhouse Effect" for basic physics, "Climate Book" for a mathematically rigorous analysis, and "Lean Rind 2008" for a recent paper with model-independent confirmatory data.

notindoctrinated (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

al gore represents the dumbing down of science to a level that appeals to the masses. cigarettes cause lung cancer therefore CO2 causes global warming. no science or logic in it but i hear it everyday from al gore groupies. so what caused the more rapid than today climate change of the past grastog. that would be sunspot cycles, orbital changes, our position relative to the galaxies spiral arms and nearby supernovas. all things beyond our control. CO2 is insignificant except in ipcc fantasyland.